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Re: Indecision 2016

Post by Uniform Two Six » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:49 pm

Volkodlak wrote:
Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:26 am
hes a PRO not an amatur like Obama
:?
Explain please.

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Re: Indecision 2016

Post by Uniform Two Six » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:25 am

And today:

Repealed Obama executive order forbidding dumping of mining waste into surface water sources.

Repealed Obama executive order requiring extended background checks for the mentally ill to purchase firearms.

Throws out detailed Obama plan to assault Daesh stronghold of Raqqa because it "was too risk-adverse" and that it "lacked provisions to cooperate with Russia". Also complained that Obama administration plan glaringly lacked a "Plan B" -- apparently ignorant that the version detailed to them WAS the Plan B.

Threatens dire consequences for Iranian missile test -- then slaps mild unilateral economic sanctions on despite effectively zero Iranian-American trade to sanction.

In defending refugee ban, Trump spokesperson Kellyanne Conway, speaking to NBC News notes that the Obama Administration did fundamentally the same thing in response to "the Bowling Green Massacre" which was perpetrated by two Iraqi immigrants. She also noted that this would probably come as a surprise to many viewers since the incident was not covered by the press. Her assertion that the national media did not cover the event would prove correct -- as it did not happen and appears to be entirely fabricated.

Vows to repeal 1954 Johnson Amendment which bars tax-exempt 501(c)(3) institutions like churches from political fundraising and endorsements. Roughly 80% of Americans oppose the move.

Vows to "review" 2008 Dodd-Frank Act and repeal Fiduciary Rule and Volker Rule outlawing banks from making speculative investments.

Norwegian Prime Minister detained at Dulles International Airport under Trump travel ban due to Iraq travel annotated in passport.

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Re: Indecision 2016

Post by Volkodlak » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:05 am

Uniform Two Six wrote:
Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:49 pm
Volkodlak wrote:
Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:26 am
hes a PRO not an amatur like Obama
:?
Explain please.

1.)Unlike Obama he actualy see a threat in muslim immigrants who are leches or terorists.
2.)Unlike Obama he is unpredictable and quite strong minded as nobody can boss him around.
3.)Unlike Obama he is capable of doing things without just using words.
3.)Unlike Obama he looks to make America first world second
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Re: Indecision 2016

Post by Uniform Two Six » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:05 pm

Volkodlak wrote:
Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:05 am
1.)Unlike Obama he actualy see a threat in muslim immigrants who are leches or terorists.
Also unlike Obama, he seems to think that Daesh (with no navy, no air force, and not much of an army) is an existential threat to the United States other than the obnoxious annoyance than it really is.
Volkodlak wrote:
Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:05 am
2.)Unlike Obama he is unpredictable and quite strong minded as nobody can boss him around.
Which leads him to miss (or in Trump's case, more likely not even seek) diplomatic solutions to problems, alienate allies and exacerbate rifts with rivals. It's also exactly the personality trait that led to the group-think phenomenon that resulted in the Iraq-war in 2003 (remember how Saddam Hussein was mere months away from obtaining a nuke?).
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Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:05 am
3.)Unlike Obama he is capable of doing things without just using words.
Yeah, because Obama's administration killed off Osama Bin Laden using their exceptional talent with oration and the written word. Also the Pakistanis' outrage at Obama using several times the number of drone strikes inside their country than Bush did, is merely their liberal media bias.
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Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:05 am
3.)Unlike Obama he looks to make America first world second
And if Trump undermines NATO, who do you think is at greater risk? Slovenia or the United States?

Our new president is an absurd idiot. :x

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Re: Indecision 2016

Post by Volkodlak » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:05 am

meybe but still he needs more time he might be best us president.


Offtopic: We are talking politics on werewolf forum while talks about werewolfs are completly dead
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Re: Indecision 2016

Post by Uniform Two Six » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:28 am

Well, you appear to be a far more optimistic soul than I. I watched all of the presidential debates, and the guy is genuinely, astonishingly ignorant. More to the point, I read an article written by the guy who wrote Art of the Deal (which incidentally, was emphatically not written by Donald Trump -- he hired this other guy to write it for him). His insights into the inner workings of the Trump organization 30 years ago makes everything in the last two weeks make much more sense. There is no secret strategy or anything. The guy is just a soliphistic megalomaniac.

As for werewolf stuff, aside from the Underworld movie, there's not much werewolf stuff happening right now.

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Re: Indecision 2016

Post by Volkodlak » Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:14 am

perhaps im more optimistic, but in other hand Trump is not my president.

Eh i know not a lot new stuff about werewolfs so im kinda keeping my mind busy in topic your ideal werewolf
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Re: Indecision 2016

Post by Meeper » Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:25 pm

Uniform Two Six wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:28 am
The guy is just a soliphistic megalomaniac.
Hmm. *looks up Solipsism*: "The philosophical idea that only one's own mind is sure to exist." Hmm...
Uniform Two Six wrote:
Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:25 am
Repealed Obama executive order requiring extended background checks for the mentally ill to purchase firearms.
Well, I've heard it said that all knowledge is knowledge of the self. *Mumbles something about math, and doing*.
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Offtopic: We are talking politics on werewolf forum while talks about werewolfs are completly dead
Hmm...*Does some math of his own...* I wonder, what if he's a werewolf? ?? (Yes, I went there. :lol: )

Joking aside, I've nothing actually credible to contribute to this, so I'll be over here minding my own.

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Re: Indecision 2016

Post by Uniform Two Six » Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:00 am

Meeper wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:25 pm
Hmm. *looks up Solipsism*: "The philosophical idea that only one's own mind is sure to exist." Hmm...
That's the technical definition. In common usage (which I somehow managed to type with a straight face), it means roughly an inability (not merely to comprehend views contrary to one's own) -- but an inability to even comprehend that such exists. Or in other words, to view the mere existence of a contrarian viewpoint as a manifestation of insanity by anyone who holds the view.
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Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:25 pm
Hmm...*Does some math of his own...* I wonder, what if he's a werewolf? ?? (Yes, I went there. :lol: )

Joking aside, I've nothing actually credible to contribute to this, so I'll be over here minding my own.
Not at all. The assertion that President Trump is a werewolf can be categorized as an "Alternate Fact" and thus by the transitive property of alternate facts, werewolves are real (it's now a fact) and The Werewolf Zombie Apocalypse is now underway. How did zombies get into the equation, you ask? That you would even ask the question betrays your liberal media bias.

Hey, this is fun!

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Re: Indecision 2016

Post by Meeper » Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:05 pm

Yeah that's the implication I thought, I just did a little homework is all (I'm familiar with the idea, because I've found not only others but also myself guilty of the affliction now and then, but I didn't know the word/term or its origins).

As for the werewolf thing, I was just having a little fun with Volkodlak.

The joke aside, I'm not up to speed on all of the arguments. Sure I can pick out things like gun control, and the question of "Guns in the hands of mentally unstable people!" (Obama) versus "Why should mentally ill people be denied the right to defend themselves?!" (Trump), I have no resolution at the bottom of it. If I did have the answer, I usually lack the energy and oratory skill to push past the wall of differing opinions, even if I did, I always have a nagging doubt that I've missed something, and become "soliphistic" or some other form of ignorant. It's all rather exhausting and why I don't do politics. It's why I didn't say anything about my seeing Trump getting in, even though I sensed the writing on the wall, that everyone and their dog didn't want to believe possible (their collective soliphism, or group think, or whatever the right term is), yet it happened anyway. It's like a friend and his wife divorcing, I asked him if he'd have appreciated it if I'd said anything at the time I was seeing them slowly falling apart (while they were busy pretending to be happy together), naturally, he wouldn't have liked it one bit, and I'd be the jerk, so with a lack of an answer I left it alone. I seem to have a knack for knowing when something isn't right with the world (precious little else unfortunately), even that's random.

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Ok, I'll post this anyway since I took the time to write it, sorry for the off topic, and the ramble. I just don't get to vent very often, heh.

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Re: Indecision 2016

Post by Uniform Two Six » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:26 pm

Meeper wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:05 pm
...and become "soliphistic" or some other form of ignorant...

...their collective soliphism, or group think, or whatever the right term is...
I'm going to get endless sh** about this ("soliphism") from now on, aren't I? :D

Recently, I'm doing evals and my section head -- exasperated -- says something to the effect of: "Can you actually use, like, real words for a change?"
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Re: Indecision 2016

Post by Meeper » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:56 am

Uniform Two Six wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:26 pm
Meeper wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:05 pm
...and become "soliphistic" or some other form of ignorant...

...their collective soliphism, or group think, or whatever the right term is...
I'm going to get endless sh** about this ("soliphism") from now on, aren't I? :D

Recently, I'm doing evals and my section head -- exasperated -- says something to the effect of: "Can you actually use, like, real words for a change?"
:lol:
Well now you see this is the secret to my success, I'm not highly educated. :thpt2: :) . If it makes you feel better, I've recently started to get comfortable with the word "Bigot" :o . Though personally I still prefer the word that rhymes with "Banker".

Actually I enjoy being exposed to new stuff like this, keep it up.
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Re: Indecision 2016

Post by Volkodlak » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:37 am

Putin ready too meet Trump in Slovenia

link: https://www.rt.com/news/376975-putin-me ... -slovenia/
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Re: Indecision 2016

Post by Uniform Two Six » Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:15 pm

Volkodlak wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:37 am
Putin ready too meet Trump in Slovenia
I rather doubt that Trump will have a summit in Slovenia. Most of his political base probably can't find it on a map. Moscow or Washington has more impact to the redneck crowd that voted him into office. Moreover, Ivanka is from there, so there's the additional issue that pundits would use the occasion to bring up the immigration angle (which is probably wearing thin at the White House right about now).

And on that note... From my Trump Log for this week:

Yemen raid in which a Navy CPO was killed and several others wounded was (reportedly) decided on by Trump Administration without input either from intelligence or defense leadership.

After Kellyanne Conway's "misstatement" on the "Bowling Green Massacre", Trump claims without any evidence that media outlets were purposefully covering up terrorist attacks.

Trump Administration declines to apply for emergency Supreme Court hearing regarding travel ban executive order, implying that Administration officials suspect order may be unlawful.

Administration spokesperson Kellyanne Conway openly endorses commercial products (for Trump daughter Melania Trump's line of goods) in live television interview while in official capacity, flagrantly violating federal regulations. White House refuses to substantially sanction her. White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer declares that she has "been counselled" and "that's the end of it".

After Yemen raid was criticized by Senator John McCain, Trump mocks him openly and questions his expertise -- apparently ignoring that McCain is both a naval officer and naval aviator.

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